How Much Does The Whore Inside You Charge?

i asked a former gf this very question before. she said "it'd be like sleeping with her dad or mine for money" and was pretty grossed out. i then asked her if it was a harrison ford type of dude and i consented. would she then? she got pretty pissed, that i would aid her in prostitution. this is a very delicate question with some girls. my friend just read this and she would add facials and anal as the cherry on top for 3 mil.

some bitches ho out for much less then 3 million dollars and some (my favorite) will do it for free (just for the dick). prostitution is teh worlds oldest profession right? every woman has a price. be it a food stamp or 9 trillion euros.

my price: love! Call me old, call me sentimental but when it comes to my personal space - (pun intended) just like mastercard babe - PRICELESS!!!!

Crack you are such an ass...if a guy takes me out to dinner and I like him (as in relationship) I would sleep with him. If he offered me money I would kick his ass. It would not be payback for the dinner. I buy dinner for my friends all the time - as part of my relationship with them. If a guy were to buy me a drink and expect anything...he can kiss my ass.

In a relationship, there are set roles that each person can and might play. The standard, cliche' is for the guy to bring home the money and the woman to make an awesome home for their family. It can be reversed or split or whatever...it has nothing to do with selling yourself. NOW some women MIGHT be selling them selves short...settling for a guy - especially one with your fucked up mentality.

Have you ever heard of fidelity? In a relationship, some guy might say he would okay you sleeping with a guy for money...does he expect to share in the wealth? If so, that is prostitution and pimping girlfriend! Then you can think about the psychological mess you might create in sleeping with some guy for money. You might think it is worth it until you are done...enjoy that money sweetpea...you sold yourself short for sure on that one! I can't imagine not having a hollow place where your self-respect used to be. All of this becomes null and void if you have a kid you need to support? No it doesn't...there are plenty of ways to get your butt back on its feet...work, dedication, learning from an obvious mistake etc...depending on what society you live in - your kid is not going to starve if you don't sleep with some old goat!

Maybe the only price I might consider worth it would be life or death for myself or others...in todays society so little is sacred...one thing you have to give physically is your body...it is considered priceless in our society.

People look down on women who compromise their bodies for money in the USA. If I were living in Germany or some other country where prostitution is legal then it is a whole different story. Their society considers the sale of your body as a legal way to make money...I might not approve but at least it IS a legitimate way to support yourself in that society. So if I lived there and grew up with their beliefs, I might not be taking such a hard stand. In Iran or Iraq it is my understanding if a man finds out another male has seen his wife's face - he can legally kill her! Go figure!

You little people think so... so, so, small.

If I was going to corrupt my foundation, I'd want something good. Better than money.

Like Dick Cheney getting sucked off by Condi Rice while he was fist-fucking Shrub.

Live. None of that CGI crap.

cakefart - you sound like the classic dumbshit political science major with not enough brain power to see past their major! I wouldn't want to see Dick Cheney DO anything! Yuck!

What has the world become these days?

It's always a give and take.

I rarely have a problem with the act itself; it's the hypocrisy that pisses me off. It would be great if the world was a better place and all that, but I have also travelled enough to know what I think is possible and what is not. So, when Bush & Co. (or Bad Evil Corporation) decides to do something I look at it for what it is. You wanna exploit people in the 3rd world so that we can drive faster and bigger cars, or whatever, okay, so be it, but don't fucking tell me you're doing it for the poor people's benefit! That's what pisses me off.

Same thing with girls, money, and dating. I have more respect for the hooker on the corner than the sluts who will date 3-4 different guys in a week just for the free meals. Those shit stains aren't even people.

Having said that, I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't say that Guillermo was right. Everybody has their price. It may not be $3mil (for most people it's probably less), but everybody has their price. Anything else is wishful thinking.

I think people should QUIT JUDGING other people! Sex is just something people do. If it's two consenting adults then it's not our business. We don't really need to go around calling women sluts or whores, even if they are standing on the corner looking for a five-dollar john.

I love my husband with a *passion* and I can't think of a reason to cheat on him but like I've said before nobody's ever offered me three million and that would sure buy a nice retirement for me and him.

everyone is a whore
biggest whore ever
God
giving away eternal bliss just for a little attention

#13. There is no easy way out. In the end we all pay. In the end, the love you make is equal to the hearts you break.

john, lol... You are darned straight to heck, boy

No, she is a whore. A prostitute has sex for CASH. Are there any prostitutes out there that would like to share a heartwarming story about how they turned down cash for dinner and a movie or breasts or jewelry?????

"No, she is a whore. A prostitute has sex for CASH."

Well maybe but that could just be a technicality since he is paying her bills with cash, he paid for her breasts with cash and she is only having sex with him so he will pay her bills with cash. She just doesn't get the cash right after the cum hits her face, he has to wait for the bill to arrive.

I wanted to comment on what moss said.."Sex is just something people do. If it’s two consenting adults then it’s not our business."

True, very true but there is always an exception to the rule. Necrophilia is a sex act, bestiality is a sex act, can an animal give consent. Now I know why Shaggy was always in a closet with Scooby, "Rive it to me rood Raggy." "Rut it rin my rass."

Angelfood wrote: "thru hard work you can make more than enough money so what is left if you have nothing left to give of yourself -what is a gift only you can give?"

I am still trying to figure it out. Some arguments posted here on this thread seem like bad preaching. From extraverted and arrogant people: are there televangelists posting here ?

Anyway as long as it is between consenting adults (so no cadavers or animals here obviously) with full knowledge of the situation, then where is the problem ? I can't help but think that this repression of paying for sex is beneficial only to some people who can then hold the upper hand by blaming anything that don't go their way.

Conflict of interests. Bad moralism.

But i do not root for superficial people who only matter about the money / power / beauty of their conquests and only think about networking.

I simply don't want to judge.

(to the grammar nazis: english is not my native laguage, so don't hammer me for bad spelling or grammar thanks)
(This is my first post here, thanks to the webmasters for this website)

Who said life was fair? I'm not concerned with the dick whose parents paid for his/her college and he's making six figures doing jack shit. Jealousy would eat me up if I thought about how much more money other people have than I do. Hard work can get you everything you need, if not everything you want. We live in AMERICA and though this country's got problems (like everywhere on Earth) there's still more opportunity here than anywhere else. Please don't give me shit about how much you hate America...I've traveled all over the world and I'm thankful every day that I live here. It's not always easy though, because you have to WORK.

The women described above who date/fuck men in exchange for bills paid, jewelry and a posh "lifestyle" are the worst of the worst. They are too lazy, dumb and/or lack the self-esteem to support themselves. Except in extreme circumstances, there's no excuse to be a hooker in this country. It's not like the Ukraine where people are living in serious poverty and the women HAVE to go to Turkey or Germany or wherever to prostitute themselves to get their family's medical bills paid. There was a documentary on PBS about this last night. Prostitutes like these, who think they're going to another country for a regular job and then find themselves held prisoner in the sex slave trade, forced to service 10-15 men a night...they have no choice. Women who make the choice to whore themselves out to rich men for a few trinkets are disgusting.

I'm not saying $3 mil wouldn't be tempting. The fact is, if you let some guy f++k you for money, he OWNS your ass, at least while he's doing it. If I did it, I'd be disgusted with myself. If other women choose to be "kept," it's their problem, not mine.

vincent
as long as they agree with you
the grammar/spelling nazis will leave you alone
it is when they disagree with you that they attack
they are equivocators of the higest order

lilyspryte you had to go and talk about my mother didn't you? Leave Kathie out of this. Kathie is a SAINT.

#23 "Televangelists"? This whole thread is about stating opinion, so criticizing the posters as "preachy" is off-base.

Consenting adults can do what they want. No one is saying to throw people in prison for their sexual choices. But damn right everybody's entitled to have an opinion about it. What disturbs me the most I think is some of the "it's just a business transaction" attitudes, as if people are machines or something. Also, I think that many of the male persuasion just don't grasp the complications/repurcussions of it. Hookers that make a lot of money often think that they have power, but it's not power, it's just money, and money comes and goes. It's the men that really have the power in these situations and the women are dependent on them.

"It’s not like the Ukraine where people are living in serious poverty and the women HAVE to go to Turkey or Germany or wherever to prostitute themselves to get their family’s medical bills paid. There was a documentary on PBS about this last night. Prostitutes like these, who think they’re going to another country for a regular job and then find themselves held prisoner in the sex slave trade, forced to service 10-15 men a night…they have no choice."

I know what you mean situations can get very desperate at times, sad but true. But it's like saying if I lost my job, lost my house and my family was out on the street I would have no choice but to turn to a life of crime if I couldn't find a job, and my wife would have to whore herself out for us to survive. I don't agree with that, we always have a choice. My father-in-law worked three crappy jobs at the same time to support his family, one during the day, one at night and one on the weekend.

Many of these type of problems stem from over population, if there was half the amount of people on the planet as there is now there would be enough jobs and food for everyone. But in some places people keep having kids even though they can't support the ones they have now. Let's not pretend there aren't ways to receive sexual gratification without depositing sperm in a woman's crotch. But that is another topic.

Crack, I am hereby requiring you to add "except my mom" every time you post that all women are whores....... :)

Crack - I am sure Kathie would have to have the patience of a saint to put up with your shit... Why don't you shut up...no please necessary...manners aren't your gig.

Booboo's on to something. Lately my wife has been into this "sharing her body", "sex is a special bond between two people" rap. I thought that was teenage girly fantasizing crap. Some women feel that way.
Most men don't. I certainly don't. Sex is sex, it's beautiful, but I don't attach any strong emotions to it. It would be very easy for me to look at it as a business transaction. I don't think that if I'd married someone different I'd feel a special bond only to that person because of the sex. That bond comes from making it through the good & tough times, spending time together & apart, blah, blah blah. Sex does not make the relationship, it enhances it.

Guillermo, I bet you don't tell your wife you could see sex as a business transaction. For there to be a "special bond" between two people during sex it all depends on what happens during the act. When you penetrate her, do you look her in the eye or avoid her gaze is the light off or on, do you get up right away after your orgasm? I am not saying you must cuddle but the speed at which you depart is a factor. Also the longer the marriage/relationship is the stronger the bond can become. Oh I am not saying every encounter is some magical experience, there are times when I fuck her hard and ruff and we get a bit raunchy but it all depends on your view.
If your significant other starts to become less attractive to you that will hurt the overall experience, then you may only be doing it for the straight up pleasure of an orgasm, and in that respect it can become mechanical and lame.

IMHO, if you fuck someone on the first night you meet them how can there be a bond, it's about pleasure only since you barely even know the person. It can be mad, hot fun but there is no real connection even though my cock is inside her.

So many factors need to be taken into consideration when determining someone's emotional outlook of a sexual act.

Guillermo,
I know it's hard for men to understand, but sex really is different for women (in general). I can only speak for myself here. I would have to be mad about a guy...or, dare I say, be in love with him...to let him touch me like that. So sex with him would combine with the emotions and make things all complicated. I'd want him again & again (no one night stands). Men can just walk away but I really think it's more complicated for women. It's just the way we're made. Plus, on a physical level, the man is ENTERING the woman's body. It's a physical intrusion, so naturally a woman would be particular about who she lets do this.

Caliban, I TOTALLY agree with you, I think we're on the same page, but you've got to see this documentary (Frontline). Things are really bad in Ukraine. It made me cringe when the woman went to Turkey to prostitute herself to pay her brother's medical bills. He ended up dying about a month later. Most of the women are TRICKED. They think they are going to get regular jobs, but upon entering the country are met by a trafficker, taken prisoner, raped & beaten if they don't service the clients. They are guarded so they don't escape and the pimps don't give them a dime. If you were to go to a brothel in Germany, chances are good that you'd be buying the services of one of these slaves. There are 60,000 of them in Germany, no shit, and about 20,000 here in the US.

BTW, of course women feel raw lust just like men, and just as strongly. But I think there's something in their biological makeup that makes them, at the end of the day, want the object of their lust to see them as more than just a slab of meat. Plus, I think women moreso than men need to actually LIKE the guy first in order to lust after him. And if she likes him that much, it's not so hard to feel more and get emotional.

In our most primitive sense, men want to spread the seeds while women have to raise the children.

Men want sex while women want a relationship.

Crack what are you a friggin' neanderthal? Hey...I will shut up if you will!!!!!! It would be worth it...

Oh...and in the tradition of Anal Sex: To Do or Not To Do?

I had meant to refer this link for a response from MAN LAND:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Bend_over_boyfriend_cover_...

How do we feel about "up-dah-ass" in this regard?

Thanks in advance for telling me about your Peg-a-licious-ness and how "piercing" of an experience that might be for you...

Crack: yep! But I think a lot of men use this theory as a justification to f**k around or even to use women. Plus I think men actually want relationships too.

"Most of the women are TRICKED. They think they are going to get regular jobs, but upon entering the country are met by a trafficker, taken prisoner, raped & beaten if they don’t service the clients."

Men that would do this kind of thing are not men at all, they are animals and should be exterminated on site, it's harsh but there is no justification for their actions and their existence is an insult to humanity. I know this happens to children too and it makes me insane with angry, I was referring to women that have a true choice not ones that are tricked or literally forced.

Crack makes a good point, if you go back far enough men like wild animals are programmed to spread their seeds. There are a few cases in the wild were the roles are reversed but most of the time the male make the offspring and the female tends to them.

This is a very interesting group of posts.

"How do we feel about “up-dah-ass” in this regard?"

I don't feel this should ever be done with someone that you don't know well. It's a touchy situation that needs some tact. Many men try to convince their girl to do it, and in the end they may like it, if it's done well but I don't want anything from her that I have to convince her to do, that's my standard rule.

I have only done this with one woman (wife) and we took it slow, she was a bit interested due to the fantastic results she felt from my application of the "shocker" so it stands to reason she wanted to experiment.

Taking it slow and using a lot of lube and a condom is mandatory, and this is AFTER you have her motor running real hot already. It may be wise to use a dildo on her ass first to get her used to the stretching and odds are between the lube and the smooth dildo it won't hurt her at all. She needs to relax her muscles if she tenses up it will hurt going in and it is best if she is on her stomach or back. If she is on her knees she may have a natural proclivity to tense her muscles. The head is the hardest part, never force it and if she changes her mind mid-stream, don't get into a discussion there. If you actually make it in you only pump slowly in and out an inch at a time to get started, and DON'T go too deep. Do not cum inside her or she will leak and odds are she will not care for that afterward.

We do not do this often I wait for her to tell me, and to be honest there really needs to be preparation which can ruin the mood. It is wise to only do it if she has already used the bathroom that day and this is were many people drop the ball. An even better preparation would be an enema or high colonic if you prefer that terminology. This I bet barely ever happens except maybe with some gay guys since that may be part of their main repertoire.

I only recommend this act for people who are secure in talking about these things with their partner. If you have the kind of woman who doesn't really like talking about sex acts outside of the bedroom you may be out of luck.

Call me a slob if you will it's OK, some see this act as disgusting like a rim job.

Dude! I appreciate the thoughtful response...but if you clicked on the link, you'd see that I probably don't give a damn about how you rim your lady.
I'm talking about the VIDEO in the link.
The VIDEO!
And that VIDEO being:

"BEND OVER BOYFRIEND"

Cal..."Bend Over Boyfriend!" The question is...what do YOU think about your lady pegging YOU "up-dah-ass?" I don't give a shit -- even if rimming me would probably encourage that happening right in the bed on the pretty sheets from JC Penney -- but I don't give a shit about you butt-buddying her.

The question is -- what about your Lady butt-fucking YOU?

Discuss.

"I don’t give a shit — even if rimming me would probably encourage that happening right in the bed on the pretty sheets from JC Penney — but I don’t give a shit about you butt-buddying her."

LOL, no need to get all emotional I didn't say you cared, I thought I was on topic and at the same time was trying to give some pointers to some that may have not tried this.

(oops...seems Booboo posted before mine to you, Cal...)

And as for Booboo --
I like your philosophies.
And what's in your picka-nick basket.

"Oh, you will be mad with rage if you see the documentary."

I was furious when I saw a reporter pay the "degenerate" to free nine children from his brothel. it makes me so mad I can't even talk about this, it's not too often I want to crush someone's skull with my bare hands, but for that kind of "man", no problem.

nodakgirl, when I see your name I always think kodakgirl, eh.
Anyway, I understand that men have prostates that can be stimulated by a woman but I can't help but think there is a slight gayness to the act (and to quote Seinfeld, "not that there is anything wrong wtih that"). I am not a homophobe but if you are bent over taking it from a strap on it isn't too much of a wild stretch of the imagination to assume a cock would feel very similar. You got this big thing up your ass and someone's hands on your hips thrusting. But I could be wrong since I never experimented in college.

Oh and I am all alone, no cubemates.

Cal... BINGO! THANK YOU!!!

"You got this big thing up your ass and someone’s hands on your hips thrusting."

YES! YES! YES!
PRECISELY my argument from the very beginning!
And from a MAN's MOUTH!!!
A gal can "con" herself into liking it "up-dah-butt"... but...as one GUY put it...

"you got this big thing up your ass and someone’s hands on your hips thrusting."

It's very cool that you're the type of guy that's got a protective instinct towards women and children. There are so many jello-spined pussies out there who wouldn't give a shit...I'll have a drink tonight in honor of all the fellas that give up their train seats to elderly or pregnant women.

On the other topic, "I can't help but think there's a slight gayness to the act"
Yeah, I can see that.

There is like three conversations going on here, but they're all good.

"I’ll have a drink tonight in honor of all the fellas that give up their train seats to elderly or pregnant women."

Yea you just don't see that happening much anymore. Equality is a great thing but I still hold the door open for a woman.

"But I think a lot of men use this theory as a justification to f**k around or even to use women."

I could see that for sure. If they do they are only fooling themselves and no one else. I agree pussies they be, arrr. I'm in pirate mode, just watched Dodge ball last night.

nodakgirl, it just makes sense to have those kind of feelings when guys experiment with anal play. Most might wonder if they have bi-sexual tendencies. They might not have a desire to suck cock but they may like being penetrated. It's a thin line to tread. My woman tried the shocker on me with her finger and I didn't care for it, sure there was a moment where a shockwave passed through me but I didn't care for the overall anal sensations, so I had to put the kibosh on that, much to her disappointment. You have to be honest with your fuck buddy or the sex will never get any better, ya know.

yeah this thread makes you think
kind of like this picture
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=2&u=/060523/ids_photos...

I knew there was an endangered list but not a critically endangered list. What else do we expect though, we are a cancer on this planet, we give nothing back to this planet we only take and destroy.
Sorry, I wish I could be more positive but I'm not a Scientologist.

Oops, better not get too serious, hell, damn, fart :)

So cute!

"Let me left my left buttcheek from the chair….and –
ahhhhhh!"

Oh, south-paw ay.

Nodakgirl wrote:
A gal can “con” herself into liking it “up-dah-butt”… but…as one GUY put it…

“you got this big thing up your ass and someone’s hands on your hips thrusting.”

I offered this up on the original thread- but yeah, I've taken it "up-dah-butt" from a chick before... and I liked it (more than a few times). How is having hands on your hips and having a big thing up your twat all that much different? Really, how is it different?

And yeah, ask your cube mates how many like a finger up their ass while fucking (both male and female) in my extensive travels, it's a *much* higher percentage than what I've seen offered up here. Maybe I just tend to date nasty dirty whores (not prostitutes mind you, they don't actually take my money)... but my ex-wife was a professional dominatrix so I tend to know a "diverse" mix of people.

Get out more for fuck's sake... the kama sutra is full of ass-play techniques. It's not a scourge of the modern "porn addicted" world. Ass play has been a passtime for ages.

Uh oh. Nodakgirl is up on her high anti-anal horse again.

Btw, I just bought this book, it's great.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060732474/

Real...I've got a humdinger rant ready to go...
It could be one of my best...
Should I?
Or shouldn't I?
Vote?
And I'll do whatever the board sez.
Rant?
No rant?

I am all ears nodak...go for it! :-)

I'm ready as well!

Bring it!

Peed!

Here it...cums...

So, okee doke, y'all. Here I am. A Cow-pu-latin-Girl on her High and Very-Well-Hung Horse. But before I start my RANT. Please, Bastardly Boys in particular, click on this (again) first:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/Bend_over_boyfriend_cover_...

THIS is the question. "Bend Over Boyfriend." How appealing is THIS to you?

DOC...on twat vs. anus....and your quote/re: "How is having hands on your hips and having a big thing up your twat all that much different? Really, how is it different?"

First of all -- the emphasis on this discussion is on "BIG THING UP your ass" rather than "hands on your hips." But we already knew that, right? Right. OK... let's move on...

Ass versus Twat.
Twat versus Ass.
Slit vs. Asterisk.

Well...for one thing. SHIT comes out of the one hole. Sometimes that shit is hard-as-rock compacted tirds -- other time....dribbly and watery. Sometimes there are chunks of corn or peanuts in it. Sometimes it's just SLIMY and SLICK. Sometimes it's in ROPES and other times it's in neat CLARINETS. Sometimes its CHESTNUT BROWN. Sometimes, after a bag of black nibs, you'd swear you shat a chunk of tire--except it has FLECKS of LETTUCE you had in that Jimmy John Sandwich you ate 13 hours earlier. Sometimes it has a Dairy-Queen-like curl on the end of it as you've tried to pinch-it-off. Other times, it's like a chunk of log that's broken-off. Sometimes it smells like ROTTING DEAD ANIMAL. Sometimes it smells like a PETROLEUM BYPRODUCT.

It's a Poop Chute. Crap-canal. Tird-tube.

I won't slam the Kama Sutra. But lets remember: no cable TV in the 4th Century A.D. But can someone cite where it says up-dah-butt is AOK? Please don’t get confused with butthole tickling? Yes. That’s groovy. But up-dah-butt? Don't think so. And I'll bet a jug of safflower oil and two weeks of not washing my hair on it.

Now don't get me wrong. Tickling a man's butthole is an ultra magnificent way to wrap a man around my finger. He goes nutty. LOVES it! But when I STICK said FINGER in his asshole? Especially unannounced? I guarantee ya -- he'll have eyes-on-springs in reacting to it. (Throw in the sfx of a steam whistle like Fred Flintstone hears at Slate & Company Rock Quarry, too.) He'll tighten MR. ASTERISK up as TIGHT as a drum... And there I am...forever stuck with my finger trapped in his sphyncter-grip. And when I finally manage pull it out? Happy-Fucking-Birthday-To-Me! I have little shit-flecks on it and maybe even shoved under my fingernails. What should I do? How bout if I wipe it on YOUR side of the bed???
Perhaps I could do the fab romantic interlude of "Honey? Let's take a shower together...and let me give you an enema, too?" Now what the hell do you s’pose is gonna be the CONCENSUS on THAT?

Bottom line: Boys...do you want a dick in your butt? Even if it’s FAKE? No! You DON’T! Because in Man Land having a dildo up your butthole smacks of fag. And if you like it? That’s even worse! As you agonize that you could be the next Dave Kopay or Esera Tuaolo in the making. And that scares the shit out of you. Which would be handy, because now I can stick my finger in your ass with relatively less anxiety about my manicure having tird balls underneath.

It's a POOP CHUTE for cryin' out loud...And if YOU don’t wanna “Bend Over Boyfriend,” then WHY the heck should I feign that I diggit, either? Me? I’d say, “Sure honey...you can stick it in my ass. But I won’t like it."

To Love You...is to Rim Me.

Olives?

God bless you Nodakgirl!!!!!!!

Thanks Nat...
and Angelfood? I'm glad you see my point. But I'll bet you probably don't wanna smell my finger, huh?

I just wanted to do a reBUTTal.
Please do NOT confuse the above rant with nice, wholesome, good ol' gay boy sex. That's a different deal. Limitations of the mechanics. Rim away, guys!

My rant is on hetero sex. And in no way, shape or form (of the tirds) did I intend to to derail or hijack this thread. But I did. Just as Real so rightly warned.

But I DO wanna know...is if I can put repeatedly plunge-in-an-out a butt-plug that's 6-inches long in Doc's bung hole? And would he like that? I'm thinking that he could NOT look me in the eye and tell me that it turns his crank. For one thing, I'll be behind him...pummeling away with the butt plug. He couldn't see me. Unless he had a pocket mirror...or one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PEEK-SPY-SCOPE-1989-AROUND-THE-CORNER-SCOPE_...

It hurts! I hurts! My head, that is.

No but semi-seriously. Basically, you want us (guys) to say that the only reason we like anal is because if feels good (tight) to us, the psychological taboo thing, and that it gives us a feeling of control over the girl? If that what you want to hear? Will that make you happy sweetheart?

i'd add my two cents, but it's pretty much all been said. plus i hate it when i can't go right off the cuff and have to respond to all the issues right away, as well as defending my points all at the same time. all i have to say at this point is that the bastardly readers and commenters have proven themselves quite the intelligent bunch. this was a very interesting and insightful discussion to read at 5:41 in the morning. bravo and brava!

Nodakgirl- how they hell have you missed- for a second time no less, that YES I have taken it up the ass from a woman- strap-on sister- bend-over-boyfriend style and I like it. Haven't done it in forever, but it's been more than a few times. And no, I don't have hangups that I'm afraid I'm gay... Now, as far as the shit stains- keeriste- there are ways around that- I've only gotten the "streaks-on-the-cock" once from ass sex- once out of probably a 100 adventures "up-dah-ass" I've never left a streak on said strap-ons. For fuck's sake...

Now, getting on in my years, and having a great taste for whiskey, I can't remember the actual name for it, but in the kama sutra, there's a particular "yoni massage" the golden delight or some such shit, which involves not tickling, but full finger up the ass, two in the slit, and a thumb on the clit... and believe it or not, there are definite references to full-on "up-dah-ass" positions.

As sex is awesome. Some people actually like it because it's *fun* and feels good - not just because they watch too much porn and want to dominate/feel dominated.

Why the hell is it so hard for you to accept that? You just continue to say things in absolutes, and while that's a well-used (if sort of pathetic) way of debating, I think you actually believe your rants of absolutes. Hopefully I'm wrong...

Doc... what can I say...other than...man...that was beautiful!
I don't know whether I should start to cry...or quickly grab something to shove up my ass?! You've convinced me! And you're right. I've been too "absolute." Then again, that could have something to do with running out of Grey Goose and needing "Absolut" instead... But you're right...

And Real..."what do I want?" That's such a GREAT question. Because up until now, I couldn't think much more beyond "pony" or "shiny red bike."

Hmmm. What DO I want? I guess I want... for men to never let go of this: they should adore women. Not in a leering, goofball, god-she-got-big-titties-sorta way...but with the toned-down, softened ecstacy and glow...that wondrous anticipation you have... the night before the NFL Draft. THAT sort of parallel of rapture and contentment.

Adore them and keep on adoring them. And do it, so that we truly FEEL adored by you. "But what if she DOESN'T despite my attempts?" you ask? Then she's a byatch. DUMP her. Get rid of her! She's a Bad Sister on the Planet. Mind Game Mama. Adios Shrew! Drop-kick her into the Panty-Waist-Puss-Whipped-Boy Universe. There are those of us who will want to always feel that we... are...ADORED.

Um...let's see....and...well... What the two of you decide upon and do in creating your own lusty Nirvana is up to you and your own biz, right? But gentlemen, simply please don't jump to the conclusion that all chicks will automatically be ready to get it up-dah-butt... The decision to do so, for many of us gals...is...severity-wise...right up there with the process of deciding to buy a car. (And you think I'm kidding, don't you?)

Yes. Getting a "return" of some sort will be nice. But most often, it's pretty easy. Just make a frickin' Harlequin Novel's book cover come to life. Design interludes which we will, without question, feel your adoration for us. Have lit candles...kiss our necks...whisper sincere desires into our ears...be tender...take that shower together... then...adroitly and without calling much attention to yourself...grab that FLEET from the top of the toilet tank like Jumpin' Jack Flash. Allow it to run under the warm water a bit first. Then...lovingly and with care... in a passionate, deep kiss...simultaneously go about administering that bad boy...perhaps having James Blount playing will help (I know, he sucks, but "You're Beautiful" might work nicely here)...but just make us feel adored...hold us tightly while we're keeping the enema's contents inside our bowels...deep kisses...hold her tight... and when she's ready...let her hop out and evacuate... But you don't have to wipe our ass for us; rather -- just have a nice warm towel ready to wrap us up in... (You will have had that tumbling in the dryer before this whole scenario started up) ... And then --

"To Love Me is to Let You Rim Me"

(I KNOW! I KNOW! It's a GREAT song title, huh? If anyone's gotta band, let me know... I'll write you the lyrics.)

Okay. If we ever meet nodak, I'll put the anal activity on pause. I'll have a stolen bath towel from The Pierre ready, and I'll adore you in two different languages that we both understand. Sound good? Älskling?

Ja! Fantastisk!

(^:

You're pretty hot Nodak, in a "sex-in-the-city"/schizophrenic/christian/feminist sorta way.

Do you're boots have steel toes?

I'm just fucking with you but yeah, I still think you're hot.

PEED!
Naw, crack...but the stilletos are made out of Titanium -- with protuding studs on 'em.

I just got a semi.

Hell yeah I'd sleep with an old dude for 3 million

for enough money, most women (AND men) would definitely sleep with someone. my bf actually told me that if someone offered me a ridiculous amount of money to sleep with him/her, he would understand if I did and accept it. I was pretty shocked because I wouldnt cheat for any price and I wouldnt want him to do it in any situation, but hey....
still, I really loathe the "all relationships are prostitution" angle crack is getting at. heard it before, and its complete bs. it also seems to imply that all women are whores, or women don't enjoy sex. if its not a "clearly defined" cash for sex situation, than its not prositution. if you buy a woman nothing but dinner and a movie, and she has even the tiniest drop of self esteem, she still isnt going to sleep with you unless she has other motivation. even if you buy a woman diamonds, she's not going to give it up unless she has other reasons (unless its A LOT of diamonds).
so save your money and find a woman who will do you for free.

Okay truth be told, I have had wild mind numbing sex with my man so he would forget about that expensive purse I bought. Does that count? In my opinion we all - both men and women do it to get something we want, we just do it in a relationship, does that make it any different? Women have been using sex to manipulate men and to get things that we want for as long as there have been men and women. I think that it is easy to say no I wouldn't do it for 3 mil when you don't have the offer in front of you, but if confronted with the cash and a "just once" for the money how many would. More then I think would think they would. Would that make you a bad person or a smart business person? Most peoplr have to work much harder for that much money!

it's just sickening, huh?

Real said, "Same thing with girls, money, and dating. I have more respect for the hooker on the corner than the sluts who will date 3-4 different guys in a week just for the free meals. Those shit stains aren’t even people."

Same goes for men who date 3 or 4 women and lie to cover it so they can screw them up in many different ways! Talk about a shitstain!

I think you have a very good theory...it is a give and take. AND I will concede that everyone does have their price. My price might not be monetary...yours very well could be. Money might mean a lot more to you so it has more value to you than to me. I might believe that a person's body is more important than money...thru hard work you can make more than enough money so what is left if you have nothing left to give of yourself -what is a gift only you can give? Are you saying the easy way out is the best? Are you afraid of some hard work to get that money?

Then again, some might say, sex with an old man (or woman) is hard work! LOL Back to that old give and take I guess...

I posted this over at the "Krista: Bastardly Lady of the Day" before I noticed this topic thread.

I knew this woman at work who had divorced her husband, hooked up with a man that was more than twenty years older than her. He bought her breasts and a decent sized house. She said sex with him was dull so she still went out to bars and hooked up with young men, younger than herself too. She was 36, here sugar daddy was 61 and the guys she hooked up with in bars were in the 20’s range.

So is she a prostitute?

I feel she may not be the traditional kind of prostitute but she is definitely trading sex with the old dude for “benefits”.
She was really good looking too and under normal circumstances I would have fucked her but after she told me all that I didn’t really care for her anymore. Am I a hypocrite since I said I would sleep with Farrah for 3 million, maybe, but only a little since it would have been a one shot deal, he makes her mortgage/insurance/property tax payments etc. so she is a kept woman, I would never let that happen to me.
In a way she is smart to get so much for just sexual favors but at the cost of her right to choose, can she ever say she isn’t in the mood to suck cock, maybe but then her monthly bills might not get paid.

To me you are only a whore (man or woman) if you allow yourself to be one, you always have a choice.

hard work will get you what ever you want ?
tell that to the people digging ditches for 12 hours a day for 5 bucks an hour
or better yet tell it to some of the people i work with who spend an hour on the phone each day and 7 hours fucking around and still pull in 6 figure salaries
thinking the world is fair is a good way to rationalize your feelings of superiority
but the world isn't fair
and deserve is the most meaningless word in the english language

Angelfood,

Just shut up. Please.

My mistake I though you were talking about a man putting in a woman. I'm not overly observant I'm trying to work at the same time.

Oh, you will be mad with rage if you see the documentary. There's something on the website about it too. Most people don't know how widespread this problem is and would be shocked to know that slavery is alive and well. There's no justice either - the trafficker on the program was given 5 years PROBATION for kidnapping, rape and everything else.

It's a good thing women have the emotional instincts that they do, otherwise they wouldn't be very good mothers. They tend to want the man they're sexually active with to be in a relationship with only them. It's love but primitively speaking, they don't want their partner/husband straying off because it jeopardizes the security of the family. Societies are a lot healthier when you've got both a mother and a dad looking after the kids.

"Crack what are you a friggin’ neanderthal?"

No, I just play one on TV.

"Crack: yep! But I think a lot of men use this theory as a justification to f**k around or even to use women. Plus I think men actually want relationships too."

Only men who are pussies.

Cal, I dig...But just in case...
Let me left my left buttcheek from the chair....and --

ahhhhhh!

Only if it involves your own experiences Nodak. "Scenes from the Riverfront Holiday Inn in Toledo" -- could be a film noir classic.

S'pose I should wait a little longer...?
Or not?

Good Gawd...nodak! That was more a one sided analytical debate...but I see your point (pun intended)...you could do a thesis on the various forms of "poop" as it relates to the probability of encountering it during a sexual act.

Smell.
It's the Old Man Smell that would give me the dry heaves.

I can't believe we did a seperate thread for this................. I'm with Nodak, Old Man Smell is a deal breaker...... as for the rest of the debate about what the true definition of a prostitute is, just look in the dictionary, and Crack, just look at your mom. :-O

people are entitled to their own opinions.

moss is right. if its between two consenting adults, then i dont see as to why other people have to react so much.

having sex with someone you love, for free, is different with sleeping with an old man for money. yes, we all know that. people are different. most of you cant tolerate it, ok. but some could. its a matter of personal preference.

I used to date a guy (13 yrs my senior) that treated me to fancy dinners, expensive jewelries and such. And you would know that he's expecting to get laid afterwards. Did I give it to him? No. Because I know he's just buying his way up my skirt, and not really being totally honest when he said he liked me for me. Now, I dated a guy (my age) who Ive spent so much shit on and stupidly fell inlove with, then dumped me for a bimbo. The bastard managed to fuck me. For free. You could say hes the one whoring himself on me, so Id pay for his shit.

its easy for people to say theyd say no when theres no offer in front of them. but when its there, believe me, its something you would lose sleep over.

just be glad its not a minor slutting it up for 3mil. because thats just so wrong.

Oh! You're at work? Well then you're already getting it "up-dah-ass" right this minute, aren't you?

Seriously...perhaps you could ask your cubical-mate what he/she thinks about butt-fucking.
Or perhaps do an Office Pool on "TBF or NTBF?"

Make sure to drop by the HR department for their....uh...er.... "input."

all right nodakgirl
lets hear it